Tuesday, November 26, 2024

How Thune and Schumer will navigate the new Senate

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Sen. John Thune (R-S.D.), the incoming Senate Republican leader, looks on during a press conference at the U.S. Capitol.

The incoming president is sure to continually exert pressure on Senate Republicans throughout his second term. | Francis Chung/POLITICO

A FRESH START (SORT OF) 

Incoming Senate GOP Leader John Thune’s relationship with Donald Trump has garnered plenty of post-election focus in Washington. But there’s another senior lawmaker that will be critical to Thune’s term as leader: Chuck Schumer.

After nearly a decade of Schumer and outgoing GOP Leader Mitch McConnell atop the upper chamber, the Schumer-Thune show now takes centerstage. And their ability to collaborate on government funding, defense spending, the debt limit and more next year — all while navigating Trump’s influence on the Hill — will be critical.

“Sen. Thune and I have always had a good bipartisan relationship through the years,” Schumer said in an interview last week. “And I hope that will continue. I certainly want to sit down and talk with him. And as I've said before, whenever we can work in a bipartisan way to get things done, we will.”

But, Schumer added, “We're going to keep our principles, and we'll have to go from there.”

There are high stakes for Thune. The incoming president is sure to continually exert pressure on Senate Republicans throughout his second term. And while nominees only require a simple majority to pass, the bulk of legislation in the Senate is still subject to a 60-vote threshold. Republicans will only hold 53 seats.

That means Thune, on occasion, will need the help of Schumer and Democrats. But years of baggage and an increasingly contentious Congress won’t make building bridges easy. Nor will Senate Democrats’ hopes of taking the chamber back in 2026, which may dissuade them from handing Republicans easy wins.

“A lot of us have great relationships with John,” said retiring Sen. Debbie Stabenow (D-Mich.), who currently serves in the No. 3 position among Senate Democratic leadership. But, she added, those ties will be “tested” in a second Trump term.

“[Thune] will certainly be feeling the push-pull,” Stabenow said. “Donald Trump doesn't care about people being able to work across across the aisle to work together. He wants loyalty.”

There are a couple of advantages for Schumer: He’s been doing this job far longer than Thune, or even the leaders in the House, both of whom are in their first terms leading their parties. Schumer also has a long track record of bipartisan dealmaking, giving him knowledge on how these high-stakes negotiations typically shake out.

Still, Thune has the numbers — and control of the chamber. Thune and Schumer were seen chit-chatting on the floor last week, and Schumer did congratulate Thune earlier this month on his election to GOP leader.

We are told a different new duo in leadership is a bit more chummy. By both men’s accounts, incoming GOP Whip John Barrasso (R-Wyo.) and Senate Democratic Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) have a pre-existing relationship, a possible leadership bridge in a new Senate era.

“John Barrasso is one of my closest Republican friends,” Durbin said. “For no apparent reason, I go to the Senate gym every morning, at least I did before I got my knee replaced. And so I see John. He's the first one there, 5:30 in the morning. So we've gotten to be friends. We talk a lot about books that we both enjoyed and other personal things.”

“I know Sen. Durbin very well,” Barrasso said in an interview. “He went to Georgetown for college and law school. I went to Georgetown for college and medical school. We have a nice relationship.”

As for the top of the leadership, however, the whips’ sentiments diverge. Durbin said that even though he once campaigned for Tom Daschle, the Senate Democrat Thune ousted in 2004, Thune “is a friend, and we joke about it all the time.” Barrasso, in contrast, said “Chuck Schumer has been a terrible leader of the United States Senate.”

Ursula Perano, with an assist from Mia McCarthy

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MORE SENATE DUOS TO WATCH

It isn’t just the top of the Senate leadership ranks where relationships will be paramount. The road to bipartisan agreements and hard-fought dealmaking will be paved through some of the across-the-aisle pairs that aren’t making headlines every day. Here’s some of the pairs we’re keeping an eye out for:

Sens.-elect Jim Banks (R-Ind.) and Ruben Gallego (D-Ariz.)

These two might not come to mind right away. But this duo worked together in the House, particularly on national security issues. That included penning a letter to the State Department together and jointly asking for a briefing on Iran, in addition to working together on the House Armed Services Committee.

Still, a new chamber could change things. Banks ran as a Trump devotee. Gallego, previously a member of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, did not renew his membership with that group earlier this year and took steps toward the political center while running for Senate.

But the dealmaking middle in the Senate is on the fritz. Sens. Joe Manchin (I-W.Va.) and Kyrsten Sinema (I-Ariz.), both swing votes in the chamber, leave in a few weeks. Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah), who occasionally broke with his party, is retiring. And any bipartisan relationships filling that void in the new Senate will be critical.

Sen. John Fetterman (D-Pa.) and Sen.-elect Dave McCormick (R-Pa.): 

The Keystone State’s split delegation has some checkered history. Just last month, Fetterman dressed up as a fake McCormick out-of-state driver’s license for Halloween, a play on both the movie Superbad and carpetbagging allegations against the incoming GOP senator.

But delegations with an R-D divide can manage. Sen. Tammy Baldwin (D-Wis.) and Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), for one, have coexisted for years. And Fetterman has shown some willingness to come around to former Republican foes, like Dr. Mehmet Oz. In 2022, Oz was the GOP nominee against Fetterman in the Pennsylvania Senate race. But last week, Fetterman said he was open to supporting Oz’s nomination to lead the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services.

McCormick has also commended Fetterman on his pro-Israel stance, saying the senator has “moral clarity” on the issue.

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McCAUL GETS BLINKEN TESTIMONY ON BOOKS

After months of pushing — and threats of contempt of Congress — House Foreign Affairs Chair Rep. Michael McCaul (R-Texas) said Tuesday he’d secured the appearance of Secretary of State Antony Blinken on Dec. 11 to provide testimony on the Biden administration’s 2021 withdrawal from Afghanistan.

“I trust his testimony will provide some long-overdue accountability and transparency for the American people, our Afghan allies, and our Gold Star families,” McCaul said in a statement. “It’s unfortunate the secretary agreed to appear only after my committee advanced contempt proceedings against him.”

McCaul has been probing what went wrong during the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan, and his committee ultimately advanced a contempt of Congress report in late September, citing Blinken’s “willful indifference” to the panel and refusal to comply with a subpoena. Blinken at the time cited responsibilities at the UN General Assembly as a conflict, but reiterated his willingness to testify.

The Texas Republican is nearing the end of his time atop the committee, as he opted against pursuing a waiver to continue leading the Foreign Affairs panel.

— Anthony Adragna

HUDDLE HOTDISH

Rep. Ritchie Torres could run for New York governor … or New York City mayor.

Kari Lake might join Newsmax

Rep. Michael McCaul’s wife Linda has a Thanksgiving jambalaya recipe

Hakeem Jeffries and Liz Cheney did a book talk. 

QUICK LINKS 

Rep. Ilhan Omar says Harris-Walz tapping Liz Cheney was ‘huge misstep,’ from Sydney Kashiwagi at The Minnesota Star Tribune

"Somebody needs to get fired": Vicente Gonzalez blasts Dem strategy on abortion, trans issues, from Matthew Choi at the Texas Tribune

Capitol’s new crop: The four House Republicans poised to become MAGA champions, from Hailey Bullis at the Washington Examiner

Grassley: Trump’s new tariff threats are just ‘negotiating tool’ — for now, from Meredith Lee Hill

Susan Wild contemplates her future away from Congress. Another run isn't out of the question, from Tom Shortell at LehighValleyNews.com

 

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TOMORROW IN CONGRESS

The House is out.

The Senate is out.

WEDNESDAY AROUND THE HILL

Crickets.

TRIVIA

MONDAY’S ANSWER: Jasmine Terry correctly answered that Benjamin Franklin was the Founding Father who was an honorary member of the International Swimming Hall of Fame and invented swim fins.

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