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The Jan. 6 committee readies its grand finale

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By Myah Ward

A photo of the January 6 hearings in June.

A video of former President Donald Trump is played at the January 6 hearings in June. | Anna Moneymaker/Getty Images

CARDS ON THE TABLE — The Jan. 6 committee will return with possibly its last public hearing Thursday, a closing argument to conclude the panel's blockbuster summer series. After a postponement due to Hurricane Ian, the committee will now convene less than a month from Election Day, when voters will make their own judgments on the weight of the evidence presented.

A lot has happened in Trump world since the last time Americans saw the committee lay out the facts about the violent Capitol attack and the former president's role in the scheme to hold onto power. The Justice Department is now investigating Donald Trump for his handling of classified documents after leaving the White House, and New York Attorney General Tish James has sued Trump, his company and his children, accusing them of large-scale fraudulent financial practices.

With those developments serving as a backdrop, now the committee returns to the public spotlight. It has one last opportunity to lay out its case to Americans before it wraps up its investigation by the end of the congressional session. To get a sense of what to expect from Thursday's hearing and what we might learn, Nightly chatted over Slack with POLITICO's Kyle Cheney.

It's been a minute since we've had a public hearing. What would you say the committee has accomplished so far?

A lot of what the public knows about Trump's attempt to subvert the 2020 election and seize a second term is because of the select committee's work. Much of it came in the form of court filings against figures like John Eastman and Mark Meadows, as well as in the correspondence between the select committee and other witnesses who they've sought to interview. While the DOJ was publicly piecing together the elements of the physical attack on the Capitol, the select committee jump-started the public's understanding of what was happening at a higher level, among Trump, his aides and his enablers as he attempted to marshal forces inside and outside government to prevent Joe Biden's inauguration. Now we're seeing DOJ subpoena many of the same people the committee targeted months earlier.

After a string of stunning hearings this summer, it feels like there's a decent amount of pressure on this last one. What do you think the committee wants to accomplish Thursday, and do you think members will have the final act they're hoping for?

So far, we've learned relatively little about what the committee will feature in their final hearing, but they've promised it will be of the same caliber as the previous eight. We know the committee has obtained new footage of Trump ally Roger Stone in the weeks following the 2020 election, and we know they've conducted a series of interviews with members of Trump's Cabinet about their discussions surrounding the 25th Amendment and whether to invoke it to remove Trump from power for the final two weeks of his presidency. And the panel also says it has obtained a significant trove of information from the Secret Service in the last couple of weeks. So they will probably lean heavily into the new material. We also know they attempted to obtain testimony from Wisconsin Assembly Speaker Robin Vos, who sued the committee on Sept. 25 to block a subpoena. They wanted Vos' testimony about a call Trump made to him in July, pressuring him to support a measure decertifying the election in Wisconsin (which is not legally possible). So the panel is clearly focused on things that happened even after Trump's presidency.

Has the Mar-a-Lago investigation or the James suit muddied the waters for the committee at all, or diminished their work in any way? 

I think they've certainly crowded out the committee in the headlines, particularly as the panel has been largely dark since July. The committee, though, has continued actively investigating and is likely to do so all the way through the finish line at the end of the congressional session. They're aware that Thursday's hearing comes against a very different backdrop than the one we saw pre-Mar-a-Lago. But while that may be a test for the public (and media's) attention span, it doesn't diminish the significant and urgent nature of the threats to democracy that they've shed light on.

We're quickly approaching Election Day, and Dems have really highlighted the threat to democracy as a key issue for voters. Do we have any read on what kind of impact the committee could have in November? 

Well, the trope we heard for much of the year was that voters would not be thinking about this stuff when they go to the polls, particularly because Trump is not on the ballot. But Trump's prevalence in the news, amid the traffic jam of investigations that we just discussed, has actually kept him and his polarizing presence at the forefront of voters' minds, and I think we've seen Democrats lean into that in the closing weeks of the election cycle. Polls show voters do largely consider Trump culpable for what happened on Jan. 6 and are fearful about the state of democracy. The select committee's hearings, which drew pretty significant viewership, may have played a role in that broader perception.

The committee will also release a report soon. What do you expect from that? 

I actually think it's likely to come out in December, and I expect it to be a thorough distillation of their most potent evidence about how the attack on the Capitol unfolded, with a detailed analysis of Trump's central role in motivating and stoking the forces that ultimately marched on the Capitol in his name. I suspect it'll be organized in multiple chapters of volumes covering different themes related to the attack — similar to the way the hearings were divided. I'm most interested in whether the committee also releases its 1,000-plus transcripts, which could contain enormous quantities of new evidence that the select committee has yet to reveal.

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Poll Watcher

52 percent to 46 percent

The results of a new Marquette Law School Poll survey of Wisconsin showing GOP Sen. Ron Johnson with a 6-percentage-point lead over Democratic Lt. Gov. Mandela Barnes. In the same poll in September, Johnson received 49 percent support to Barnes' 48 percent.

What'd I Miss?

— Biden has no plan to meet with Putin at G-20, White House says: Biden will not meet with Russian President Vladimir Putin at the Group of 20 summit next month — even to discuss the release of American basketball star Brittney Griner — White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said during a briefing today.

— Judge's ruling could trigger Trump deposition in suit over rape claim: A federal judge issued a ruling today that could lead to Trump testifying as soon as next week in a lawsuit stemming from his response to a New York writer's claim that Trump raped her in a department store dressing room in the 1990s. U.S. District Court Judge Lewis Kaplan turned down Trump's request to halt fact-finding in the libel case, brought three years ago by E. Jean Carroll after Trump repeatedly denied her rape allegations and crudely described her as "not my type."

— Oath Keeper describes group's large weapons cache ahead of Jan. 6: A member of the Oath Keepers who traveled with the group to Washington, D.C., ahead of the Jan. 6 riot described a massive stockpile of firearms and other weaponry that allies had stashed in an Arlington, Va., hotel . "I had not seen that many weapons in one location since I was in the military," recalled Terry Cummings, a Florida resident who said he joined the Oath Keepers in 2020 amid concerns about left-wing violence in Portland, Ore., and joined the group leaders' private chats in advance of their Jan. 6 trip to D.C.

— Rubio wants $33B in disaster aid for Hurricane Ian recovery: Sen. Marco Rubio is asking for $33 billion in disaster relief to help with Hurricane Ian recovery in Florida, noting the figure could change as federal and state officials tally the damage caused by the historic storm. The Florida Republican laid out his request for an emergency disaster aid package today, seeking more than $12 billion for the Army Corps of Engineers to repair damages and handle flood control, nearly $1 billion to grapple with pollution caused by the hurricane and $10 billion to replenish the Federal Emergency Management Agency's disaster relief fund.

— LA City Council president resigns following leaked racist remarks: Nury Martinez has resigned her seat following a leaked recording this week. She is the first elected official to do so after days of pressure from the public and elected officials, including Biden. The hourlong recording captured a conversation between the three council members and a labor leader in which Martinez made pointed racist remarks about another white council member's Black son, calling him a Spanish word for "little monkey." The four also discussed ways to use the city's redistricting process to benefit themselves and their allies, while also diluting the power of Black Angelenos.

 

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AROUND THE WORLD

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Chinese President Xi Jinping and Russian President Vladimir Putin. | Lintao Zhang/Getty Images

THE END OF HISTORY IS OVER —  The post-Cold War era is "definitively over," the Biden administration declared in a new national security strategy , describing its intention to compete ferociously against China and Russia — while also collaborating with them on global threats like climate change, writes Alex Ward.

The long-awaited National Security Strategy, delayed by the invasion of Ukraine, serves as a reference point for Biden administration officials to coordinate policies across the government. The congressionally mandated document encapsulates Biden's thinking on the state of the world and how his administration will navigate challenges to the homeland and global order.

In a foreword, Biden calls this the "decisive decade to advance America's vital interests." The U.S. will do so in three ways before time runs out, according to the document: investing at home to strengthen the local economy, society and defenses; growing coalitions and alliances; and modernizing and strengthening the military.

That will allow the U.S. to take on the most pressing problem, per the strategy: "powers that layer authoritarian governance with a revisionist foreign policy" — that is, China and Russia.

Nightly Number

$965 million

The amount a Connecticut jury ordered far-right radio host Alex Jones to pay to relatives of educators and children killed in the Sandy Hook massacre, along with an FBI agent who was a first responder, for his lies about the mass shooting.

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