EXIT INTERVIEW — Graham Steele, the Treasury Department’s recently-departed assistant secretary for financial institutions, spoke with Avery Ellfeldt of POLITICO’s E&E News about the complexities surrounding today’s insurance market in an era of climate change. Here’s an excerpt of their conversation: Many property owners are having trouble finding and paying for insurance. What’s driving this trend? The companies say that it's a mixture of the changing climate, increased costs of building materials and such to rebuild and the inflationary implications of that as well. I think one of the remaining questions that there needs to be more interrogation of is: Why are the companies making the decisions that they're making? Why are they raising costs or pulling out of certain specific regions? Because, at least anecdotally, some of the decision-making doesn't completely make sense if you're just looking at it as an outside observer. I met with the Texas bankers a few months ago. And what they told me was, insurers are pulling back from the Gulf Coast because of flooding and hurricanes. But really, the damage from the hail and winds in the Panhandle is equal to, if not worse than, [flooding and hurricanes in the Gulf Coast]. But they're not pulling out of there. Insurers say they need to be able to raise rates so they keep doing business in at-risk communities. But what happens to the people who live there? I understand the argument that if the risk is going up, that you have to be able to price that risk. But that's going to have real implications for certain populations, and it's going to have implications in certain communities. This is a place where risk-based pricing and goals like environmental justice and climate equity run into one another. Could climate-related volatility in property insurance markets threaten the stability of the broader financial system? Could it flow through into some of these other markets? I think absolutely. If insurers pull back from insuring mortgages in certain markets, and insurance is a precondition for mortgages, or something happens and a homeowner's property is wiped out, those are defaults [for banks].
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